Comments on: Moving the ‘C’ in MVC

By: Shaggy

Shaggy — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:02:29 +0000

“the totally seo-hostile, inaccessible-without-js overkill variant…”
Remember guys, this is for pseudo-desktop apps so I don’t really want it to be accessible.
I also don’t think it’s bad to require js. AND css. they are open standards and built into browsers.
All you have to do is add some content and let the users know what’s going on.

I’d like to see some sort of sproutcore/merb hybred.

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By: Dale Harvey

Dale Harvey — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:56:04 +0000

This is exactly the model I am developing my current application with, its a perfect fit for us,

The diagram might be misleading, in the case of couchdb where its possible to implement business rules inside the database its fine, but in the case of most databases, a scripting langauge still sits in front and handles all the REST calls, the web server simply serves static html / js / css / images, and javascript is used to populate any dynamic
data, which are served as REST calls.

The major problem with this is that as mentioned it completely ruins accessibility, for applications that dont really mind about google and deep links dont make sense its fine, it works very well together with a distributed backends such as ec2 / slicehost. but that doesnt fit for a most web applications. Its something ive been trying to get my head around, but havent come up with a nice solution as of yet.

By: AC

AC — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:57:28 +0000

Right,
So you want all your business rules coded in Javascript ?

I suppose its true, one day we will all be Javascript biyatches

By: kL

kL — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:53:21 +0000

You’ve just invented AJAX! (the totally seo-hostile, inaccessible-without-js overkill variant)

You can even move whole MVC to the client side:
http://280slides.com/

By: Andrew

Andrew — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:30:14 +0000

Sounds really good… I’d love to see a framework built on this (preferably ruby :-) ).

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 12:28:40 +0000

Have a look at Sproutcore.com and what’s going on at 280North with their 280Slides web app.

By: Pieter

Pieter — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:26:37 +0000

Interesting idea. Have you seen http://javascriptmvc.com/index.html. This framework might take it to the extreme, but might potentially be a step in the direction you are suggesting.

By: Sanny Sanoff

Sanny Sanoff — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:12:55 +0000

this is what GWT is about.

By: Stephan Schmidt

Stephan Schmidt — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:02:58 +0000

Using OpenAJAX Hub as a JS message bus.

http://www.openajax.org/member/wiki/OpenAjax_Hub_1.0_Specification

Peace
-stephan